What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

Full, it contains 244 cf (6.9 m 3) of oxygen at a pressure of 2200 psi (15200 kPa) as measured at 200C (700F).

What is the normal working pressure for acetylene?

The working pressure of acetylene equipment is critical: Acetylene pressure must not exceed 0.62 bar (9psi) unless equipment has been specifically designed for it.

How much pressure is in a full oxygen cylinder?

A full cylinder will read about 2000 psi (pounds per square inch).

What is the maximum psi for withdrawing acetylene from a cylinder?

250 psi
Handbook-Oxygen & Acetylene. 16 Dissolved acetylene cylinders are filled to a maximum pressure of 250 psi (1725kPa) at 200C (680F).

At what PSI is acetylene unstable?

15 psig
Free gaseous acetylene, depending upon confinement conditions, is potentially unstable at pressures above 15 psig. Some conditions can cause the acetylene to decompose with explosive violence. Experience indicates 15 psig is generally acceptable as a safe upper pressure limit.

How much pressure is in a LPG cylinder?

At idle, the pressure in the LPG cylinder will range from 0 bar at -43oC to 24.8 bar at 70oC. As a result, most pressure relief valves are set at about 25 bar, which is around the maximum pressure that an LPG cylinder can reach. LPG is both a liquid and a vapor within the cylinder (gas).

What is the maximum capacity of a acetylene cylinder?

W-Line Acetylene Cylinders

Details WTL WS/WSL
Height in (cm) 44 (112) 35.6 (90)
Diameter in (cm) 12.1 (31) 8.4 (21)
Average Weight lb (kg) 187 (84) 68 (30.4)
Maximum Gas Capacity ft3 (m3) 390 (11) 130 (3.7)

What is the maximum capacity of a high pressure oxygen cylinder?

3,000 psi
The current DOT approval for these newly developed cylinders allows a maximum service pressure of 3,000 psi (206 bar) for containing pure oxygen, which is the gas used in closed-cir- cuit SCSR designs. The 5,000 psi (345 bar) pressure rating is for containing air and other gases.

What are typical cylinder pressures for oxygen and acetylene?

Both oxygen and acetylene gases are stored under pressure. The average pressure in an oxygen tank at room temperature (70°F / 21°C) is about 2200 PSI when full. The average pressure in an acetylene tank under the same conditions is about 250 PSI .

What is maximum safety working pressure for acetylene?

Subsequently, one may also ask, what is the maximum safe working pressure of acetylene? Acetylene Regulator Maximum Pressure. Acetylene line pressure that exceeds 15 psig is extremely DANGEROUS. Acetylene gas can become unstable and violently decompose when more than 15 pounds of pressure is used, so it is imperative that pressure never exceed 15 psig when working with university equipment.

What does PSI do you set acetylene?

In case the recommended working pressure settings are not indicated, safe numbers are 40 psi for oxygen and 10 psi for acetylene, regardless of cutting tip size. Simply adjust them until you get a neutral flame, but pay close attention to the acetylene pressure to prevent it from exceeding the limit.

How much pressure is in an acetylene tank?

The average pressure in an oxygen tank at room temperature (70°F / 21°C) is about 2200 PSI when full. The average pressure in an acetylene tank under the same conditions is about 250 PSI. Extreme care must be taken with both tanks.

I am curious what the maximum working pressure of a oxygen cylinder would be? Searching the internet I am not coming up with much information. Looking at the tanks here, the regulator reads up to 4000 PSI. The rupture disk on the valve has "3775" stamped on it which I am assuming is 3775 PSI. That is on a "300" size tank. Trying to find out if I would be okay at 3200 PSI or less.

Thanks!

I'm not sure of the maximum, but if you tip one over and knock off the valve, they will go through a cement block wall. Lot of pressure.

Eric, Look up "Charles gas laws" or "Boyles gas laws". I think you will find at a certain pressure it turns liquid and will not raise the pressure unless you confine the chamber and it fills to capacity with liquid. That would not be good. What are you making?

Mick

I think the idea here was to keep it contained in safe manner. It may very well depend on the material the tank is constructed of, if not mistaken there are some Al tanks out there, but I may be think 'in scuba not shop use. Little research and it would seem a size 300 tank would have a max pressure of 2640 PSI, which is roughly 337 cubic feet. Data came from a pamphlet passed out by Air-Gas I received while I was in school.

Your local industrial gas supplier should be able to provide you with these specs, if not I would find another one, I for one wouldn't want to be that close the rupture disk rating.

What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

if not mistaken there are some Al tanks out there, but I may be think 'in scuba not shop use.

Yep, there are a bunch of the Al cylinders in a lab here. The ones here are made by the same company that makes the scuba tanks.

--Hawk

What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

Eric, Look up "Charles gas laws" or "Boyles gas laws". I think you will find at a certain pressure it turns liquid and will not raise the pressure unless you confine the chamber and it fills to capacity with liquid. That would not be good. What are you making?

Mick

No, oxygen is one of the true "gases" which definition can only be made liquid by a combination of cooling and pressure.

tom

Tom, That is exactly what I was alluding to, As far as the tanks the other men have been speaking of... I don't believe they are realizing what Eric is asking. A scuba tank surely is not 337 cubic feet. The K tank which is used by welding shops and junk yards is typically 270 cubic feet, it is constructed of 3/8 inch wall tube and hammer forged on the end to make the threaded portion. This tank is 3 times the physical size of "scuba tanks". I cannot remember the "type" of tank Eric is talking about but the 300 cubic foot tank is about 66 inches tall and you would not want to take that on a dive... Unless you are Davy Jones. I know that when I get my tanks refilled the most I ever received was 2500 lbs of gage pressure, most of the time it registers in at 2300 lbs. Now I know when I watch them fill the tank it goes in under "Liquid" not gas... If so it would take an immense amount of time to fill one. And the operator tells me that he weighs in the charge by the cubic foot of the tank. So if he has a 66 inch tall tank it is so much liquid as opposed to the 24 inch scuba tanks... Still the "true gas" responds to pressure and temperature. Mick

Hawk, I believe that there are only a few "tank manufacturers left in the US

What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

Tom, That is exactly what I was alluding to, As far as the tanks the other men have been speaking of... I don't believe they are realizing what Eric is asking. A scuba tank surely is not 337 cubic feet. The K tank which is used by welding shops and junk yards is typically 270 cubic feet, it is constructed of 3/8 inch wall tube and hammer forged on the end to make the threaded portion. This tank is 3 times the physical size of "scuba tanks". I cannot remember the "type" of tank Eric is talking about but the 300 cubic foot tank is about 66 inches tall and you would not want to take that on a dive... Unless you are Davy Jones. I know that when I get my tanks refilled the most I ever received was 2500 lbs of gage pressure, most of the time it registers in at 2300 lbs. Now I know when I watch them fill the tank it goes in under "Liquid" not gas... If so it would take an immense amount of time to fill one. And the operator tells me that he weighs in the charge by the cubic foot of the tank. So if he has a 66 inch tall tank it is so much liquid as opposed to the 24 inch scuba tanks... Still the "true gas" responds to pressure and temperature. Mick

Hawk, I believe that there are only a few "tank manufacturers left in the US


If you are saying there are no Al tanks the size of typical O2 tanks, you're wrong.

Now I know when I watch them fill the tank it goes in under "Liquid" not gas...

I'm not sure if you are confusing a point (and I'm not sure if it matters even if you are), but the oxygen in your cylinder is definitely in the gaseous state. What may or may not be confusing you is that when air is cooled to below ~-350oF both oxygen and nitrogen turn to liquid, which is a cheap and convenient way of producing the separate gasses. Since in the liquid state their volume is only ~1/1000 of that in the gaseous state, transporting them as liquids is how it is commonly done. However, the containers are double-walled "thermos flasks" (AKA "Dewar flasks"), and the liquids always are at ~-350 oF. If your local supplier uses enough of these gasses to justify having a large storage tank on site, rather than buying the individual filled cylinders from a distributor, they still would need to get it into your tank. I doubt if your tank is filled with the gas while it is still in the liquid form. But, if it was, they would only need to transfer 1/1000 x 270 = ~1/4 of a cu.ft. of liquid into your tank for it to expand to become 270 cu.ft. of gaseous oxygen (or nitrogen). Since if they accidentally transferred ~1/2 of a cu.ft. of liquid it would have double the pressure of the correct amount once back to room temperature, that alone would make filling tanks with liquid problematic. Liquid is involved with filling tanks, though. Since room temperature is well above the "critical temperature" of oxygen, as gas is forced into your tank at high pressure it expands and releases heat. So, the tanks are placed in a bath of water to keep them cool.

Still the "true gas" responds to pressure and temperature.

I've never heard this term used before. If you mean "ideal gas," although both oxygen and nitrogen sort of behave somewhat like ideal gasses (i.e. one in which pressure x volume = constant x temperature), they do deviate from perfect ideal gas behavior. Helium comes closer.

What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

Since room temperature is well above the "critical temperature" of oxygen, as gas is forced into your tank at high pressure it expands and releases heat. So, the tanks are placed in a bath of water to keep them cool.

Huh?

Tom

Hawk, I was not saying anything about aluminum tanks not being of that size. I believe that they are used in the medical field more often for weight (wheelchairs, people lugging them). I apologize that you are misconstruing what I was asking the op. OPSIMC: I was answering someone else s statement about the "true gas" . Their words! I understand how gas vs pressure works very well. I may not be able to put it into words very well. If I remember correctly oxygen turns into liquid (boils) at right around -300 F. I am aware of the Oxygen is not liquid in the cylinder, But they put a predetermined charge into the tank (hence they want to know what size tank you are filling). While acetylene and alot of the methanes are in fact liquid in the tanks. That is why propane, and acetylene gauges read 200 lbs the entire time until the last drop of liquid boils off and the pressure diminishes. Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

Mick

My refills have generally clocked 3000psi

The answer is, it depends on the cylinder construction. Cylinders are built from Steel, Aluminum, composit and even Titanium. High pressure cylinders can range anywhere from around 1800psi up to around 4000 psi and I have even seen large special cylinders at 10,000 psi. The service pressure is generally stamped on the neck of the cylinder with the serial number, manufacturing codes, and in the US a DOT specification. I have seen cylinders at 1800, 2200, 2250, 3000, 3442 and I am sure there are others. Other than special cleaning to remove all traces of any organic contamination oxygen cylinders are not different that other cylinders. High pressure O2 does not play well with any oil or organic material. Never use any kind of oil lube on O2 fittings that is not designed for oxygen service. Generally all cylinders must be hydrostat tested on a regular basis, the time interval determined by the manufacturer and the DOT code on the cylinder. For a steel DOT-3AA 2015 psi steel cylinder 5 years is standard, some are capable of every 10 years if marked. I don't know about aluminum. I think composite cylinders are the only ones with a service life (15years). Craig

I am curious what the maximum working pressure of a oxygen cylinder would be? Searching the internet I am not coming up with much information. Looking at the tanks here, the regulator reads up to 4000 PSI. The rupture disk on the valve has "3775" stamped on it which I am assuming is 3775 PSI. That is on a "300" size tank. Trying to find out if I would be okay at 3200 PSI or less.

Thanks!

Excellent information Craig, thank you!

Mick, I just got a compressor that was used with scuba/breathing tanks (Max 3200 PSI) and got me wondering about the welding oxygen tanks.

What is the recommended maximum pressure for an oxygen tank?

I used to get high pressure nitrogen tanks for re-filling accumulators on diecasters. I believe they came at about 5000 psi. Looked like a standard tank from the outside. If you need the higher pressure one of these may be the way to go to have a little wiggle room.
Joe

The working pressure is stamped on the shoulder of the tank. Most oxygen tanks are 2215 psi. Here is how to read the info stamped on the tanks. Markings on tank: DOT 3A 2015 3{*}68+ DOT stands for Department of Transportation. Older tanks will have ICC which is Interstate Commerce Commission. The name has since been changed to DOT.Tanks filled in the US MUST have this. Most tanks from overseas don't have this and can't be filled in the US. Some tanks also have CTC which is Transport Canada. 3A means it's a steel tank. Lots of tanks have a 3AA which also means steel. Aluminum tanks are stamped 3AL. 2015 is the working pressure of the tank. This is the maximum pressure the tank can be filled to AT 70 DEGREES. 3*78+ This is the date of the original hydro. The 3 is the month. The {*} will be a symbol which identifies the hydro tester. The 68 is the year. The + means the tank can be filled to 10% over the marked working pressure. This was done on steel tanks because of the shortage of steel during WW2. If it is marked with a star, that means it only has to be hydrotested every 10 years instead of every 5 AS LONG AS it has met certain restrictions like being removed from the bank every time it's refilled, ect. There are also tanks with other markings like E 10095 or SP 8659 which are special exemptions granted by the DOT and carry special restrictions on what can be put in them, how they can be used and how they must be hydrotested.

Hope this helps.


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Not totally familiar with the entire issue, but any gas expanding from a liquid, to a gas, absorbs an enormous amount of heat.

I'd say that tanks are stuck in the water, to keep the steel above a cold embrittlement temperature and water being HUGE and DENSE, conveys more heat energy into the cylinder, far more quickly than having it sit in free air, with frost on it.